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Help with hyperthropic scar please



  • This is the guy I am talking about:
    http://www.truthinaging.com/review/healing-and-removing-scars

    Anyways, are peels you mentioned mild? The guy that made this blog has been using retinoic acid (retin a), and if I am correct, that is something that flattened them overtime.

    Isnt TCA a stronger acid?:)

    What kind of way of treating this is best in your opinion? Especially acid? Is there any pre-care and post-care after peel? Can my skin condition (seborrhoeic drematitis) affect outcome? It just makes my skin more oily.
    Thank you :).



  • Peels should be mild. When I used to do OBAGI BLUE PEELS back 10 years ago… those results NEVER LASTED! AND THEY weren't supposed to! Twice a year.. $600 each and we had a revolving door of clients!! TO GET PERMANENT results you need the down time, in between the peel to achieve new skin cell turnover,. 'to grow the new cells'.. ITS VERY important. What some fail to disclose is that 'under a peel, your skin is not perfect. Its not like peeling back bad skin to reveal new perfect skin!".. it doesn't work that way. We literally have to create a turnover,. we have to encourage DNA to nourish new cells., we have to grow the skin each time and then kill it to grow better skin. Its a slow process but the results are wonderful…..
    TCA has one purpose. To release dead skin from live cells. ONCE you do it a few times you need begin the slow RETINOIC ACID method to encourage faster results…you CAN do all TCA but it takes forever…and can be a pain.. RETINOIC ACID IS THE ONLY CHEMICAL DEEMED TO REVERSE AGING BY THE FDA… hands down, the ONLY THING IN THE WORLD that is proven to CHANGE THE WAY YOUR FACE LOOKS.. but retinA is a sub product of retinoic acid and has very little ACTIVE INGREDIENT.
    RETINOIC acid is highly irritating. Retin A, the prescription, contains a fragment of the active. And the only way to get it to work is to APPLY IT and let it absorb,. deep,. resulting in wispy live/dead layers of skin. It will NEVER ALLOW you to penetrate under .001 micron,. and the additives are just ridiculous., Highly irritating with preservatives.. You pay $90 for one TENTH OF A PERCENT. AT least in my line.. you are going to get 40 X's as much active..

    BUT WON'T THAT BURN MY FACE AT SUCH A HIGH CONTENT?.. Yes ma'am! If you use it the same way you would RETIN A~ but we don't. We do short 'sit times'. We do FLASCHE PEELS (flash) just enough to ENCOURAGE FASTER EXF0LIATION!!!
    and it works..
    and it keeps working..
    and long term results are so FREEKING GORGEOUS AND AMAZING you will regret the years and time and money you wasted on anything else!



  • Thank you Julie!:)
    Appreciate it.

    All right, so in other words, you recommend me to use TCA latte at first, and then switch to Retinoic Acid?
    What are flash/flasche peels? The way I understand it is that I would put the acid on my scar, let it sit there for few seconds and then rinse off?
    Which ones would you recommend to me please? Could you please give me a link?:) Oh, and have you seen my pictures? Do you think that flattening of my scars is possible?
    Would oily skin due to Seborrhoeic dermatitis affect the outcome?

    What regimen/protocol would you advice me to use? Like, how exactly should I treat it? And what should be the after care after the peel? Also pre-care before the peel?
    Thank you :).



  • Salenai
    Flasche peels are a new product I'm working on and I really must reserve them for seasoned clients. I don't even have data on how they perform on new users. Flasche is a rapidly performing peel on skin that has no stratum corneum. You have yours
    in tact and your plan is slow and steady,.
    The TCA COMPLEX is a wet/ liquid solution that you will apply to a kitchen type paper towel and swipe. Each swipe activates the solution. First time you will only do a few light swipes. We have to see how long, how often. After a few swipes your skin will either get dry and peel OR it will do nothing. If it peels, we let it peel and wait a week and do a light TCA LATTE application. Just 4 minutes and wipe it off for the first time. If you peel in 4 -5 days you know you have to go really slow and ONLY INCREASE YOUR SWIPES OR SIT TIME IF THE PEEL STARTS TO SLOW DOWN…
    now lets stay tca swipes don't make you peel, THEN you redo the treatment and do 2 full minutes of wiping, rewiping, press and hold, wipe and wipe.. YOU SHOULD PEEL IN A FEW DAYS.. now wait a week, do your TCA LATTE still do it slowly, b/c you are still doing your first trial, so 2 minutes, then off… NOW IN A FEW DAYS IF NO VISABLE SIGNS OF PEELING, go back and redo TCA LATTE (RETINOIC) FOR 20 MINUTES SIT TIME.

    Again, I reiterate. ONLY YOU can devise your treatment plan. You want to do AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE TO CAUSE A TURNOVER,. And only INCREASE YOUR VOLUME if no peel occurs. And never JUMP far into your application. If 20 minutes doesn't work one day….down the road, DO ONE HOUR, don't automatically go to a LEAVE ON OVERNIGHT treatment b/c the difference between 20 minutes and 8 hours is huge~~

    No pre care. Just avoid using any peels or astringents!! If you have oily skin to begin with you are going to have a little tweaking on the application b/c OIL BUFFERS ACID.. so a toner or a pre pad, should ALWAYS be used prior to your application, just to shut the oil down long enough for the acid to take effect!

    xxJule



  • Thank you Julie :).
    I have a question, I read your post on Ebay about using TCA Complex on nostrils, and that is should not be used on that area. I have one (new) scar on left nostril, and old scar exactly above right nostril. Also TCA Complex probably requires person to use the acid on bigger area, as there are being swipes done. My scars are quite thin and small. New scar is maybe 0,3 cm in size, and old one 1,4x0,3 cm in size (length x width), and they both are raised above the skin. With swipes it would not be possible to use cotton swab or pinkie. In my case it would be best to cover just the area of my scar, and not go anywhere around it.

    Would it be possible with one of the products you sell, perhaps TCA Latte (which I guess is mildest form of TCA) to perhaps put little bit of TCA on just the scar with cotton ball? So that it would burn off and peel only the scar, therefore flatten it over time, since it is raised?

    Thank you :). I also forgot to add, my skin is sensitive, apart from being oily due to Seborrhoeic dermatitis.



  • Hi Dear
    NOSTRILS = outside. I want to be very clear that its for the OUTTER surface!!! And let me explain about how TCA REALLY works. Its NOT a spot treatment b/c t works on measurable micron (# of layers in 1 micron could be 10). You can degrade those scars with TCA COMPLEX and treat your entire nose. Its not like you will HURT the skin around it, .in fact its CRUCIAL for blending the atrophic scar tissue.
    We use the paper towel method because cotton balls distribute too much solution. Its not a peel that you saturate your face with… SLOW SWIPES, you can press and hold the solution onto a specific area,. THE NOSE IS HARD to peel anyway due to oil/salt, so TRUST ME, .using TCA COMPLEX, swiping your nose.. for 1-2 minutes.. is GOING TO WORK!.. the worst thing you can do is to try a strategic application. You don't want TCA on a cotton ball or pooling on the skin.. its A FAST, EASY, CLEAN SWIPE ON, SWIPE AGAIN, SWIPE AND HOLD… and in a few days.. WHOOOSHHH the face just peels so pretty~~ or the nose… 😉



  • [quote='salenai' pid='103' dateline='1385068351']
    Hello,

    I have found your website, and I would like to ask you, how could I get rid of scar on my nose? I had cystic pimple 4,5 years ago, it left me a hyperthropic scar, after 2 years I decided to get microdermabrasion done, my dermatologist suggested it to me. Nurse screwed up and left me with bigger scar due to microdermabrasion (scar is now longer).
    1 month ago I got another cystic pimple, on other side of nose, it was smaller though, but it too left me with raised scar. I squeezed the fresh scar and lot of blood came out, week after skin under pimple swelled up.
    I used aknemycin on it, it helped, once it was healed, I used Kelo-Cote (silicone cream) on my old scar, and new scar. It made both scars worse unfortunately :/. Old scar has raised and widened a bit due to silicone. New Scar? I was applying silicone on and around the scar, it seems like it has dyed skin white around the scar, and raised it a bit. There is one small bump, my scar,then next to it is another one,and under it is another one, it kind of froms a triangle. Dermatologists I visited said that it is a scar tissue.

    I have used Kelo-Cote on new scar only for like 5 days, and on old scar for maybe 8-9 days. Even though I hae used it only for such a short time, it has made a difference in my scars, and it is worse :(.

    I've read about one guy you've helped. He had an accident, which left him with facial scarring, both intended and raised scars. He ordered retionic acid I believe, a very mild one. He started using it and the skin started peeling off. Scars started flattening over time.
    Could that help?
    Btw, I have researched a lot about possible "solutions" to scar healing, which one do you think is the best one?
    I have managed to find this so far:

    I found hemorrhoid cream that works on scars,essential oils, enzymes (serraptetase and nattokinase), vitalzym (enzymes+other ingredients), manuka honey, then oil, then gotu kola, sangre de drago, massages, needling, silica "drink", florasil, micropore tape (and other tapes), thyme oil, tamanu oil, vinegar method, edgar cayce scar oil recipe, saliva, urine therapy, celandula oil,germ oil, Helichrysum oil,black seed oil,arnica oil, dr max scar serum, avocado oil, aloe vera, invincible scars, manuka oil, emu oil, old urine for topical application, retin A.

    From everything I have found so far, the most effective indeed sounds castor oil, and then rosehip oil and avocado oil, and perhaps also Helichrysum oil.

    In case you wanted, I can post you pictures of my scars. I would like to ask you, what would you recommend? What kind of treatment for scars? Keep in mind, that they are on nose, and I have heard, that nose heals unpredictably :P.

    Thank you :).
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  • I posted this reply to the client:
    TCA Complex is a wonderful and safe way to use on ANY FACIAL scar!! You can repeat it every 10-14 days which
    accelerates the rate at which the stratum corneum grows.

    For anyone brand new, scared to death to ever try doing a peel: We have FLASCHE PEEL. This product is suspended in protective oil so that the peel penetrates quickly under the skin. The proess is 1 minute. You shake, dip, swap and wait a minute and wash. THAT'S IT.. this is a slow way to introduce chemical peels to your skin and also a great way to see how AMAZING your skin texture can be with just a fast quickie peel treatment. You might not peel visibly. Thats ok. Usually the skin just starts to roll... like a gummy brown sticker.... Usually while you're driving.. Usually while you're wearing something black (those who peel a lot can relate and laugh at that, right?)

    SO... next is TCA COMPLEX. You can dip and qtip this one,. just don't let it run or drip. .. Best results are gained by using it like a toner,. applied to a folded paper towel... Keep wiping (called layering)... for up to 3 minutes. Wash or flush when you are done!!

    TCA LATTE, TCA CORRRECT, INFUSION PEEL, ACIDIC HYRDROXY: These are amazing retinoids that you won't feel work. Trust me, they work!!
    First time just leave it on for 20 minutes and remove. Wait a week or so. If nothing happens, repeat for an hour. Some clients use a few peas sizes left on over night. I am ok with this method as long as you have done the first method of removing it. All retinoids require you to build up resistance. You always avoid your hair line, your nostrils and your orbital eye area!!
    [hr]
    I posted this reply to the client:
    TCA Complex is a wonderful and safe way to use on ANY FACIAL scar!! You can repeat it every 10-14 days which
    accelerates the rate at which the stratum corneum grows.

    For anyone brand new, scared to death to ever try doing a peel: We have FLASCHE PEEL. This product is suspended in protective oil so that the peel penetrates quickly under the skin. The proess is 1 minute. You shake, dip, swap and wait a minute and wash. THATS IT.. this is a slow way to introduce chemical peels to your skin and also a great way to see how AMAZING your skin texture can be with just a fast quickie peel treatment. You might not peel visibly. Thats ok. Usually the skin just starts to roll... like a gummy brown sticker.... Usually while you're driving.. Usually while you're wearing something black (those who peel a lot can relate and laugh at that, right?)

    SO... next is TCA COMPLEX. You can dip and qtip this one,. just don't let it run or drip. .. Best results are gained by using it like a toner,. applied to a folded paper towel... Keep wiping (called layering)... for up to 3 minutes. (I have clients who save the paper towel and rewet it with a few drops of water to reactivate the acid and they reswipe later. This is the economy version and recommend WASHING very time afterward!!

    TCA LATTE, TCA CORRRECT, INFUSION PEEL, ACIDIC HYRDROXY: These are amazing retinoids that you won't feel work. Trust me, they work!!
    First time just leave it on for 20 minutes and remove. Wait a week or so. If nothing happens, repeat for an hour. Some clients use a few peas sizes left on over night. I am ok with this method as long as you have done to the first method of removing it. All retinoids require you to build up resistance. You always avoid your hair line, your nostrils and your orbital eye area!!



  • [quote='Julie Robins' pid='435' dateline='1410115356']
    I posted this reply to the client:
    TCA Complex is a wonderful and safe way to use on ANY FACIAL scar!! You can repeat it every 10-14 days which
    accelerates the rate at which the stratum corneum grows.

    For anyone brand new, scared to death to ever try doing a peel: We have FLASCHE PEEL. This product is suspended in protective oil so that the peel penetrates quickly under the skin. The proess is 1 minute. You shake, dip, swap and wait a minute and wash. THAT'S IT.. this is a slow way to introduce chemical peels to your skin and also a great way to see how AMAZING your skin texture can be with just a fast quickie peel treatment. You might not peel visibly. Thats ok. Usually the skin just starts to roll... like a gummy brown sticker.... Usually while you're driving.. Usually while you're wearing something black (those who peel a lot can relate and laugh at that, right?)
    Thanks for sharing information about hyperthropic.

    SO... next is TCA COMPLEX. You can dip and qtip this one,. just don't let it run or drip. .. Best results are gained by using it like a toner,. applied to a folded paper towel... Keep wiping (called layering)... for up to 3 minutes. Wash or flush when you are done!!

    TCA LATTE, TCA CORRRECT, INFUSION PEEL, ACIDIC HYRDROXY: These are amazing retinoids that you won't feel work. Trust me, they work!!
    First time just leave it on for 20 minutes and remove. Wait a week or so. If nothing happens, repeat for an hour. Some clients use a few peas sizes left on over night. I am ok with this method as long as you have done the first method of removing it. All retinoids require you to build up resistance. You always avoid your hair line, your nostrils and your orbital eye area!!
    [hr]
    I posted this reply to the client:
    TCA Complex is a wonderful and safe way to use on ANY FACIAL scar!! You can repeat it every 10-14 days which
    accelerates the rate at which the stratum corneum grows.

    For anyone brand new, scared to death to ever try doing a peel: We have FLASCHE PEEL. This product is suspended in protective oil so that the peel penetrates quickly under the skin. The proess is 1 minute. You shake, dip, swap and wait a minute and wash. THATS IT.. this is a slow way to introduce chemical peels to your skin and also a great way to see how AMAZING your skin texture can be with just a fast quickie peel treatment. You might not peel visibly. Thats ok. Usually the skin just starts to roll... like a gummy brown sticker.... Usually while you're driving.. Usually while you're wearing something black (those who peel a lot can relate and laugh at that, right?)

    SO... next is TCA COMPLEX. You can dip and qtip this one,. just don't let it run or drip. .. Best results are gained by using it like a toner,. applied to a folded paper towel... Keep wiping (called layering)... for up to 3 minutes. (I have clients who save the paper towel and rewet it with a few drops of water to reactivate the acid and they reswipe later. This is the economy version and recommend WASHING very time afterward!!

    TCA LATTE, TCA CORRRECT, INFUSION PEEL, ACIDIC HYRDROXY: These are amazing retinoids that you won't feel work. Trust me, they work!!
    First time just leave it on for 20 minutes and remove. Wait a week or so. If nothing happens, repeat for an hour. Some clients use a few peas sizes left on over night. I am ok with this method as long as you have done to the first method of removing it. All retinoids require you to build up resistance. You always avoid your hair line, your nostrils and your orbital eye area!!
    [/quote]



  • I believe in natural remedies as it don't have any side effects. It is always safe to use natural products or the products made up of natural ingredients. Coconut oil is at the top of the list when it comes to natural moisturizers with healing properties. It helps in reducing the scars too. Scoop about a quarter of a teaspoon of organic virgin coconut oil into the palm of your hand and let it melt as it comes up to body temperature. With your fingertips, massage oil directly onto scarred skin and let it soak in. There is no need to wash coconut oil away as the vitamins and essential fatty acids will continue to work and improve skin health as long as you wear it. However, if the oil is too heavy for your comfort, leave it on for at least thirty minutes before removing with an all-natural cleanser. One can also try revitol scar cream as it is made up of good quality ingredients and can cure scars within a week.


 

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